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Guidance to in-house counsel – managing the pressure to “Just say Yes”

Paul Venus, Partner at Piper Alderman, outlines how in-house lawyers can protect their integrity and navigate ethical pressure in corporate environments.

In-house lawyers may occasionally feel pushed to agree to actions that threaten their ethical boundaries – and navigating these situations requires finesse.

8 years ago I published an article on the pressures that in-house counsel face and gave some ideas about how they can manage those pressures.

8 years later, and after giving advice to in-house counsel continuously over that period, it seems that the same issues still arise.

There have been a number of examples recently where in-house counsel have raised concerns about how they were treated for giving advice in the workplace. 

The complaints have ranged from lawyers making whistleblower complaints and then alleging that they were sacked to lawyers being criticised for not raising concerns about potential illegal conduct within their companies and organisations. 

As of today, there are in-house lawyers in Australia who are the subject of regulatory investigations and litigation because of the advice they gave whilst performing their roles.

How you can get pressured at work

“Just sign this”, “you don’t need to see the detail”, “it was off-the-record”. 

If you have heard these words, you are not alone. Similar situations arise from time to time in the working life of an in-house lawyer.

In-house lawyers are often called upon to advise in short time frames, have their budgets restricted but at the same time are required to give critical business and legal advice.

The result is that you may feel pressured to agree to a statement or request that might go against your better judgment.

So, how do you respond without crossing an ethical boundary?

Also, and perhaps just as importantly, how do you navigate those situations without getting fired in the process?

Know where to draw the line

The starting point is to understand that you are a lawyer, first and foremost, and that with that professional status come overriding ethical obligations.

“A lawyer is independent of his client and having regard to his wider responsibilities and the need to maintain the profession’s reputation, [he/she] must and should on occasion be prepared to say to [his/her] client ‘what you seek to do may be legal but I am not prepared to help you do it’.”

This advice is as applicable to the in-house lawyer as it is to any other lawyer. As an in-house lawyer, you provide advice independently, honestly, and fairly and must be confident in what is right and what is wrong. Your ethical priorities are the same as any other lawyer. 

Rule 3 of the Australian Solicitor’s Conduct Rules relevantly provide that a solicitor’s duty to the court and the administration of justice is paramount and prevails to the extent of inconsistency with any other duty. Rule 4 of those rules also relevantly provides that a solicitor must also avoid any compromise in their integrity and professional independence.

And, as such, you must always remember that your first duty is to the Court and to uphold the law and then next to your client. 

Knowing who your client is therefore becomes very important. You must always remember that your first loyalty is to your employer if they are a company, not your immediate manager or a company director. 

So how does this relate to those difficult situations that were identified above?

The following makes suggestions about how to deal with each situation.

Just sign as witness on this document for me please, I have already signed it and don’t want to reprint it”

Non-lawyers may think it is acceptable for a person signing a document as a witness not to be present to see the person sign it. They may think you are being obstructionist or inefficient if you require the person to re-sign the document in front of you.

But it is professional misconduct not to insist on this. This is one where you have to politely explain that the witnessing is not legal unless you actually see them sign the document. Also, be very careful of witnessing property-related documents and guarantees as special rules apply to doing that.

There are also particular rules that apply when signing affidavits. A witness should never purport to take an affidavit unless the witness is in the presence of the deponent and, unless the witness has personally placed the deponent on oath. In taking an affidavit, a witness must first ensure that the deponent has read the affidavit and, if necessary, wait while this is done. The witness must then administer an oath or affirmation.

A witness cannot insist on reading the contents of the document. The witness should, however, be satisfied that the affidavit is neat and legible and that its form is correct.

The witness must not permit the making of an affidavit if the witness knows that its contents are false or if the witness believes that the declarant or deponent does not understand its contents or, does not understand the nature of an oath. The witness should make sure that the deponent is aware that if the contents are wilfully untrue, the deponent can be prosecuted.

The witness should also be satisfied that the deponent is not signing the document just because the deponent trusts the solicitor who drafted it. However, a witness is not obliged to conduct an investigation into the truth of the contents of the affidavit, and responsibility for a false statement in an affidavit ultimately rests with its deponent.

“Please just authorise this transaction, you don’t need to see the detail, trust me”

Just don’t do this!

That is, don’t do this unless you want to risk getting sued personally if things go wrong further down the track.

There have been any number of instances where in-house counsel have been asked to authorise commercial activities of a company.

Sometimes, this is merely a legal “sign off” role where the lawyer is expected to advise that the proposed transaction is legal and that all legalities have been observed. Obviously, in that situation, the lawyer needs sufficient information to enable them to form an opinion that the transaction is legal and it would be unprofessional and negligent of the lawyer not to seek such information.

But there are also situations where the in-house lawyer may be acting outside their role as lawyer. They may be acting as a company secretary or simply as an officer of the company in some other capacity. In those circumstances, it is equally important for the lawyer to seek and obtain sufficient information to form a proper opinion about the transaction.

Alternatively, if it is beyond your role to authorise the transaction, let the person who asks you to authorise it know this. 

Document your advice to protect yourself and the company when this occurs.

As an in-house counsel, a large part of your role will be helping your employer company manage risks. If there is not a clear line of authority for authorising transactions then you need to step in and help the company create systems and processes to manage authorisations.

Case study: the Robodebt Royal Commission

The Robodebt Royal Commission investigated a Commonwealth government scheme which was meant to recover overpayments from social security recipients. The scheme was wildly inaccurate and the scheme led to terrible consequences for those who were subjected to it. Ultimately the scheme was found to be illegal. 

The Royal Commission considered the role of the in-house lawyers advising about the scheme.

The Commission found evidence of a tendency of senior lawyers to accommodate a policy position. They found that instead of considering the position independently, the lawyers became advocates of the policy position.

The Commission was critical of lawyers who saw their role as only to advise on narrow issues, who gave important advice without proper critical analysis and who did not refer to statutory requirements and case authorities.

“At school I was always told that honesty is the best policy so why don’t we just admit what we have done and get on with things”

A great many successful prosecutions occur only because of admissions made by the accused. Lay people do not generally understand that there is usually a presumption of innocence in criminal and quasi-criminal matters. They also do not understand that in civil matters, a party must still prove the facts that support the allegations being made before a Judge can find in their favour.

As an in-house lawyer, you need to explain that the management and officers of a company should never make an admission unless advised to do so by external counsel and only then after careful consideration.

Remember – admissions can be withdrawn. So even if someone inadvisably makes an admission, the company can withdraw it, in appropriate circumstances. For example, if a manager makes an admission of wrongful conduct by a company under a mistaken belief as to the law or facts, it would be possible and appropriate to withdraw the admission in certain circumstances.

You should also be aware that a company does not have a privilege against self-incrimination, but individuals who work for it do. So if a manager is called to give evidence under compulsion, they need to be properly advised about their own personal position. You may not be able to do that and at the same time act for the company. In that situation, it will be appropriate to arrange alternative representation for the individual.

“I told you that I was writing the email ‘off the record’, so why should we disclose that in the litigation?”

In Australia, there are different meanings that can be given to the words ‘off the record’. A communication can be ‘off the record’ in the sense that it is ‘without prejudice’, as contemplated by section 131 of the Evidence Act 1995, but these words can also convey other meanings. Some people mean to say that they are telling you information that they wish you to hear, but not your client. Journalists sometimes refer to a communication being ‘off the record’ to indicate that they would not divulge the source of the information requested or that they will not use the information at all.


“Sometimes people just don’t want to take ‘no’ for an answer, no matter how diplomatically or logically that is presented to them.”

In the US, the words ‘off the record’ are sometimes used when depositions are conducted. A deposition is a process in which witnesses may be examined before trial to determine facts about a case. Generally, the testimony of the deponent, as well as any stated objections, is taken stenographically. If the deposition is halted for any reason, the stenographer states “we are now going off the record”. When the deposition is resumed the stenographer states “we are now on the record”.

The better approach is always to use the words ‘without prejudice’ when seeking to invoke the protection afforded by section 131 of the Act. This view is supported by long experience, if nothing else.

For example, the High Court of Australia, in its judgment in Field v Commissioner for Railways for NSW, held that:

“For some centuries almost it has been recognised that parties may properly give definition to the occasions when they are communicating in this manner…[a privileged manner]…by the use of the words ‘without prejudice’ and to some extent the area of protection may be enlarged by the tacit acceptance by one side of the use by the other side of these words…The question, however, does not depend altogether upon the expectations of the parties. It depends upon what formed part of the negotiations for the settlement of the action and what was reasonably incidental thereto.”

Whilst the protection afforded to communications by section 131 of the Evidence Act 1995 is not dependent on the use of the words ‘without prejudice’, the use of other language, such as the words ‘off the record’, can be confusing and should be avoided.

10 Practical tips for better managing these situations

  1. Communicate

Communication is the key and the key to communication is active listening. As an in-house lawyer you will need to deal with the people who raise issues that may put you under pressure.

Often the best way to do this is to listen attentively and actively to what they are saying – repeating the request to them. This will help you clear up any ambiguity in what they have said and help them to see that you fully understand the request being made of you.

At that stage you can then correct the person making the request by properly advising them based on the briefing they have given you. People will often react better to you denying them what they want when you show them that your response is considered and thought-through rather than a quick dismissal of the request.

Educate stakeholders in your organisation by regularly communicating the legal standards, regulations, and potential risks to your business partners. This helps them understand the rationale behind your advice.

Ensure that you frame responses that you give to people in a constructive manner. Instead of a flat “no,” explain the reasoning and offer alternative solutions or ways to mitigate risks. 

For example consider using language like:

“I can’t approve this as is, but if we make these changes, we can move forward.”

“Here’s how we can make this work whilst mitigating risk.”

“I see the business need – let’s structure it in a way that protects the company.”

  1. Show confidence and be assertive when required

When faced with high-stakes issues, stand your ground, even if it’s uncomfortable. Remain calm, confident, and assertive in your communication.

People respond to logic and evidence. So, do your best to support your position with data, past experiences, or precedents. This can make your advice more compelling.

You are an important part of the company and you sometimes need to use that power and influence.

Warn people “I represent the company and may have to report this”.

Sometimes people just don’t want to take “no” for an answer, no matter how diplomatically or logically that is presented to them. In those circumstances, you just have to stand firm.

  1. Bring in external experts and use external resources

Be alive to situations where you may need a second opinion from outside lawyers or the Law Society.
If you are in doubt about whether your opinion is correct or what to do, you need not worry alone. The Law Society offers confidential support to all practitioners about ethical issues.

You can also seek the opinion of external counsel. Sometimes, involving outside counsel or experts can help reinforce your position and provide a neutral perspective.

It also helps to leverage external standards to help explain and enforce legal obligations. Point to external laws, regulations, or industry standards that mandate certain actions. This can help depersonalise the decision and reduce pressure.

  1. Personal matters vs company matters

Avoid giving advice on personal matters, encourage employees to get their own lawyers if necessary.

Don’t fall into the trap of giving free advice – all you do is lessen your own independence and potentially make yourself personally liable if the advice you gave was not correct.

  1. Use a risk-based approach

There are risks for the company and risks for yourself that you will need to help manage.

Not all risks are equal. Help your colleagues understand the level of risk involved and categorize them as low, medium, or high.

Keep a record of the advice you give, especially when you’re overridden. This ensures there’s a paper trail if issues arise later.

  1. Sometimes adopt a style that supports your authority

Develop respect through a “formal” approach – adopt procedures and written processes to create formality.

Processes and formality often acts as a buffer to people who want to pressure you to bend the rules. It also gives you an excuse to be able to tell them “I would love to do that for you, but the company rules don’t allow me to”.

  1. Be a trusted advisor

Foster strong relationships with key stakeholders by being approachable and understanding their business needs. When they trust you, they’re more likely to respect your advice.

But how do you achieve that – well it takes effort and a principled approach to your work life dealings. It requires consistency and long term commitment and the desire to reciprocate with others.

Excellent advice can be gained from people who have studied what it is to be a trusted advisor. 

For example I strongly recommend reading everything you can find that has been written by David Maister, the famous professional management professor – a guru in this area of thought.

Maister wrote this about being trusted:

“People will trust you, be they client, colleague or employee, to the extent that they know what your principles (or deeply held values) are, and to the extent that they know you can be relied on to act in accordance with your principles. If people don’t know what your values are, or worse, suspect that you have none beyond your own short-term self-interest, they will not trust you with their business, their loyalty or their cooperation.

Trust is about relationships. I will trust you if I believe that you’re in this for the long haul, that you’re not just trying to maximise your own short-term benefits of our interactions. Trust is about reciprocity: You help me and I’ll help you. But I need to know that I can rely on you to do your part and that our relationship is built on shared values and principles.”

Also, endeavour to deeply understand the business’s goals, challenges, and pressures. 

This allows you to provide practical legal advice that aligns with business objectives.

  1. Be excellent – not just good advice from “Bill and Ted”

Gain respect by being excellent, both technically, ethically and commercially. The key to this is continuous personal training and education and also building your external reputation.

The best in-house lawyers are highly respected members of the company team and that respect enables them to deal with pressure situations.

You do not earn that sort of respect simply by being given the title of company in-house lawyer. It is something that you develop over time and that needs to be nurtured.

Successful in-house lawyers undertake continuous self-improvement, and build an excellent reputation internally and externally to the company that employs them. Their reputations enable them to exert the authority that is needed to overcome the sort of pressures referred to above.

Being an in-house lawyer is sometimes not easy. Complying with your ethical obligations in that role can be challenging, especially if you are placed under pressure by people in the business to do things which you should not do. But you can navigate the potential minefield that these situations create by understanding the issues and risks and knowing in advance how to respond to them.

  1. Be solution-oriented

Instead of just saying “no,” offer alternative paths that achieve the business goal while minimising legal risks.

Of course, that requires you to understand the company’s strategic objectives so that you can consider and put forward alternatives that meet business needs and at the same time stay within the legal guardrails that it is your job to establish.

Work with other departments to find a compromise that balances business needs with legal requirements. 

  1. Know when to escalate

If the pressure to say “yes” involves significant risk or ethical concerns, don’t hesitate to escalate the issue to higher management or the board.

If the issue touches on compliance, involve the relevant teams to reinforce your position.

Remember, your client is the company and sometimes you need to “go over the head” of someone if they insist that you engage in behaviour that is inappropriate.

Some concluding remarks

Managing the pressure to say “yes” is part of the delicate balance that in-house counsel must maintain between supporting the business and protecting it from legal risks.

By being a strategic partner and a strong communicator, you can navigate these challenges effectively.

You can also make sure that you protect yourself and make the place you work more enjoyable and the work that you do more rewarding.

We all spend a large part of our lives at work – so it is worthwhile considering some of the strategies that have been explained to help you in your journey as an in-house counsel.

About the author:

Paul Venus is a highly experienced lawyer specialising in commercial litigation, dispute resolution and commercial law, across Australia.

With over 29 years of experience, he has acted in all levels of the Australian Court system, including the High Court of Australia, Federal Court of Australia, Supreme Courts of Queensland and New South Wales, District Courts, and Magistrates Courts.

His expertise spans practice areas which are characterised by high levels of regulation. Those include Competition and Consumer law, Intellectual Property Protection, Privacy, Franchising, Technology, Defamation law, Insolvency litigation, and Banking litigation. He is also an experienced franchising and commercial mediator, who is familiar with the Mandatory Codes of Conduct prescribed by the Competition & Consumer Act.

As a trusted adviser, Paul is known for his responsiveness to client needs, clarity and commerciality of advice, and strong advocacy. Clients, ranging from multinational corporations to SMEs to high-net-worth individuals, rely on Paul for counsel. They turn to him when making difficult decisions, requiring help in stressful situations, or seeking to navigate legal complexities to achieve high value outcomes for their business. His approach to providing practical context to legal problems and achieving exceptional outcomes for clients has earned him high praise from his clients.

Paul also has substantial experience in contract disputes, negligence cases, corporate law disputes, and shareholder disputes.

In addition to his litigation expertise, Paul brings a wealth of knowledge in commercial and corporate law. Real world industry knowledge has been gained by Paul from non-executive director roles in the Electricity and Health sectors. Paul has also gained experience in not-for profit organisations as a non-executive director in a research foundation and a charitable trust.

Paul’s expertise as a commercial lawyer, and excellent drafting skills enable him to provide strategic commercial advice and negotiate a wide range of agreements for clients. He has substantial knowledge advising clients on directors’ duties and responsibilities, conflicts management, continuous disclosure, board decisions, responses to regulator notices and investigations.

Paul holds a Bachelor of Laws and Bachelor of Commerce from the University of Queensland, a Masters of Laws from Queensland University of Technology, and a Certificate of Arbitration and Mediation from the University of Adelaide. He is admitted as a legal practitioner in the High Court of Australia, Supreme Court of Queensland, Supreme Court of New South Wales, Supreme Court of South Australia, and Supreme Court of the Northern Territory. For more details, please click here.

Email: pvenus@piperalderman.com.au

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